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Apparently-To: john.smith@gravis.com
GUS Musician's Digest Sun, 26 Dec 93 2:55 Volume 3: Issue 25
Today's Topics:
...hsssppp...
Computer Speakers
Diggest v3/n21
GusJam goes Techno?
GusJam goes Techno and patch maker
GUS SDK 2.10 impressions
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Standard Info:
- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 02:31:18 +0300
From: Lexy Bekhly <Pol@edito.msk.su>
Subject: ...hsssppp...
I've just tried (at last!) that 8-bit gus recording...
Yes, noisy etc, BUT there are two things I've noticed:
1) Something REMOVES noise in the pauses! It sounds
like... well let's write a small pretty scheme:
voice: blahblah............<silence>...............blahblah
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noise: hssssssspppp........<silence>...............hsssssss
^^^^^^
THIS sounds EXACTLY like a theshold noise
supressor cutoff! Does anyone know of such gus's feature (a
built-in noise supressor??.. Or Playfile does this cutoffs
while recording?) Or I've just gone those banana trees?..
2) Recording LONG silent fragments I would hear:
voice: ....................<silence>.......................
------------------------------------------------------------
noise: .........hsssppp.....................hsssppp........
These noise intrusions seem to be the resoults of HD
activity (of course mu gus is as far as possible from HD and
controller). If so any 16-bit recording should go waste - or
is my experience uncommon? I've read about noises inside PC
box a lot... Maybe a full-size foil-grounded board next slot
to gus will do?
Thanks on any suggestions...
Lexy F
Subject: ...hsssppp...
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Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1993 11:51:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Vincent Poy <hippo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu>
Subject: Computer Speakers
I am looking for some speakers for my Computer System and I currently have
the Labtec SS-700s and they don't sound that great. Any ideas on Labtecs,
KOSS, AR, Altec Lansing, SONY's? I'm looking at the SONY SRS-D2K, SONY
SRS-D4K, AR (Acoustic Research) Powered Partners 570, AR (Acoustic
Research) Powered Partners 622, and Altec Lansing ACS-300, does anyone
have any comments on any of these? good or bad and would I be better off
getting a receiver and some bookshelf speakers? if so, which ones? Any
help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Cheers,
Vince
hippo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
root@kingdom.com
System Administrator/Owner
Kingdom Communications Inc./California Unix Public Access Systems Inc.
San Francisco, California USA
FreeBSD - Real UNIX for Free!
GUS - God's Sound Card!
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 02:15:14 +0300
From: Lexy Bekhly <Pol@edito.msk.su>
Subject: Diggest v3/n21
>From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
>Subject: Re: GUS Musician's Digest V3 #20
>Now regarding midi, are people still interested in the gusjam project?
Y!
>I, Hal and Stuart did put some stuff on epas for enhancement, but
>not much has happened since then.
MY ooop... What's the archive name??
>I still have full of drum patterns (mostly techno and rap) which i
>could put on epas, but is there any interest in doing something
>with that?
Oui...
>Ciao,
>--
>Francois Dion
> '
Lexy F
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Date: Sat, 25 Dec 93 20:16:22 +0200
From: iddos@math.tau.ac.il
Subject: Re: GusJam goes Techno?
chrisw@leland.Stanford.EDU writes:
>
>The only system I think would work would be a common custom
>ultrasnd.ini and set of patch files used by everyone working
>on the project with midi as the file exchange format.
>
It would work if you want to recreate the past. Else, reserve some
space in the .ini for each participant to use for individual patches.
>But where are we going to get the patches from? I can probably
>contribute some, but I must admit that I get bored pretty quickly
>making patches.
If that's because of patch-makers, situation just improved drastically
with pmaker. In fact, I became almost too busy to jam - overnight!
Ido Amin (3rd World Fox) iddos@math.tau.ac.il
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"Have fun, get payed, get layed, woooo!" - Madonna
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Date: Sat, 25 Dec 93 12:56:18 -0800
From: fredh@hpcvusd.cv.hp.com
Subject: GusJam goes Techno and patch maker
chrisw@leland.Stanford.EDU writes:
> Subject: GusJam goes Techno?
>
>But where are we going to get the patches from? I can probably contribute
>some, but I must admit that I get bored pretty quickly making patches.
And from the same issue:
>Patch Maker Lite Released (PMAK106.ZIP)
> --------------------------------------
>You may download Patch Maker from our BBS or any of the sites listed
>at the end of this document. Note that you MUST install the updated
>windows drivers that are included, otherwise Patch Maker will NOT run.
>Vancouver, British Columbia - November 15, 1993 - Advanced Gravis
>today announced "Patch Maker Lite", sound editing software for the
>Gravis UltraSound sound card. Patch Maker Lite will be available
>directly from Advanced Gravis.
I've never made a patch before, but I just downloaded PMAK110.ZIP
and it looks like making a patch may be very easy with this
tool. So while it may still be boring, perhaps what has made it
so boring in the past was the time it took to make a good patch.
Chris, if you have some interesting material you would like to
make a patch of for the GusJam you should try the patchMaker if
you haven't already done so.
By the way, has anyone volunteered to coordinate the GusJam?
Fred Handloser
fredh@cv.hp.com
Corvallis, Oregon
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Date: Sat, 25 Dec 93 19:29:00 CST
From: chuth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Cornel H. Huth)
Subject: GUS SDK 2.10 impressions
First Impressions of the 2.10 version of the GUS SDK.
First, I went straight to the patch file docs. Where are they? Same
as before - at the very end. And as before, the documentation is
still missing lots. For example, line 6714 (all documentation
references are to ULTRADOC.TXT) is a repeat of 2.01:
{ bit 0 = 8 or 16 bit wave data. }
{ bit 1 = Signed - Unsigned data. }
{ bit 2 = looping enabled-1. }
{ bit 3 = Set is bidirectional looping. }
{ bit 4 = Set is looping backward. }
{ bit 5 = Turn sustaining on. (Env. pts. 3) }
{ bit 6 = Enable envelopes - 1 }
Nowhere does it say "when bit0=1 then...". It's all a guessing game
(that's all it really can be). Later, in line 6963, these "modes"
are further defined. Still, nowhere does it say "when bit0=1...". I
take it from the wording in 6963+ that all definitions are for when
the bit is set. Still, the above is about as crazy as anything.
In line 6945, "A complete table" is mentioned (and again, and again).
There is no table.
In line 6988, the scale factor is mentioned as 0, 512, 1024... In line
6724, it says: Scale_Factor : WORD; { From 0 to 2048 or 0 to 2 }
Just what we really need (not!) - more ambiguity.
In line 6846, the start/end loop fractions defs are again wrong!
(The only other documentation I have on this is the beta SDK, and
it too is wrong!). The high nybble is the end fraction; the low
nybble the start. How can this still be wrong?!
In line 6905, the SDK lists balance=0 as 100% right; 15 as 100% left.
Line 4627 lists the exact opposite.
Probably the most disturbing item is the NOTICE, line 86, to quote:
Any copying, duplication, selling, or otherwise distributing the program or
support files described in this manual, other than for the limited purposes
of system backup and loading the program into the computer as part of
executing the program, is a violation of the software license agreement and
the law. Willful violation of the copyright law of the United States can
result in statutory damages of up to $50,000 in addition to actual damages,
plus criminal penalties of imprisonment for up to one year and/or a
$10,000 fine.
Just who are they trying to scare? Developers like me? Take a hike, bozos.
Commentary:
This is all I'm going to spend my time on for this silly text file. While
it is "nice" that the GUS has this sort of SDK, that I found no less than
five problems in my first five minutes (I'm really only interested in the
patch format -- yes, I was disappointed) probably means that this thing
should not have left Canada as is. I would feel very uneasy about using
any of the code in this SDK, to say the least. Actually, since I write
all my own, this isn't a problem for me. Look for Ruckus. Supports dozens
of cards, and all natively, and all nearly all compilers, and dynamic
link executables available.
For those that would like to chew the fat, you can contact me through:
Internet: chuth@lonestar.utsa.edu [long-time alumnus]
Fidonet: 1:387/800.8 (Cornel Huth)
or my BBS: 40th Floor. 1(210)684-8065 M-F 5pm to 9am, Weekends 1pm to 9am.
Awaiting SDK version 2.20 (sort of).
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Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1993 23:18:42 -0700
From: aqwhiteh@acs.ucalgary.ca
Subject: subscribe
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